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Euthanasia/Assisted Suicide
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Denovissimus Dec 26 2006, 07:07 PM Post #1
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Do you believe that a person has the right to end their life when they have a terminal illness?

I do. Why should they continue to live and suffer and rack up medical bills for the family to struggle to pay off? If a person chooses death, then let them be on their way! They have a right to die!

How about someone with a deliberating condition, like paralyzed for life? Or any other condition which is not life threatening but comes with a host of special attention and again, expenses? Loss of limbs, blindness even perhaps.

I think they have the right to die too.

I do not advoate suicide in general though, for some person in a major depression for instance.

Free Jack Kervorkian!
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Julesy Dec 26 2006, 07:52 PM Post #2
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I dont think any person has the right to end thier life, seeing as they didnt create it.
Maybe you were meant to suffer and in the end it will teach you compassion and understanding towards others and thier own plight.
Besides, God sends people who commit suicide straight to Hell on a one way ticket!


I kid, I kid. Thats an argument my grandparents would make. I dont believe it.

Yeah, you should be able to end your life, humanely of course. If you feel you are a burden to your family, and your arent living anything close to a semblance of normalcy,or your quality of life is shit because of your illness. Who wants that?
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Sexy Zombie Dec 26 2006, 08:00 PM Post #3
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It's a personal choice for those in that situation and I think it should be avalible for them if they need it. I think it's selfish to say someone else must suffer in extreme pain until they die.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Dec 26 2006, 10:22 PM Post #4
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I agree that people should have that right if they so choose it. When our pets have an illness and are suffering and there is nothing to help them, we put them to sleep to end their suffering. My sister just put her cat to sleep 2 weeks ago. He was only 9 years old which isnt very old. He had kidney disease and he kept getting worse and worse and there was nothing they could do for him. he was suffering so bad, wasnt eating, lost half of his body weight, urinating all over the house, moaning all day long, he couldnt even lay in most positions cause he was in so much pain. So actually when she did put him to sleep, it made me think of this exact same thing. how come we dont let our pets suffer but humans, we let them suffer slow and painful deaths with some diseases that people contract.
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Jane Dec 26 2006, 10:23 PM Post #5
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I agree with euthanasia if someone is terminally ill, and in pain. Or if they have an ongoing illness which means constant terrible pain and there is no relief for it from drugs. Or for someone who has no mental function left to speak of. Although such a person woud have to specify they wanted to die before when they could still ask for death.

But blindness, loss of limb?? People born with these disabilities still can have great lives. If it happened later in life it would of course be terrible to have to accept and it would take time. I'd be wary of someones mental state if they wanted to kill themselves because of a recently aquired disability. Maybe the mental state would be the reason why and not the physical disability itself?

Is shame and loss of pride because you can no longer look after yourself without help a good enough reason to allow suicide?

Thinking about these issues I'm not for allowing everyone the right to die, except for the circumstances I mentioned in my first paragraph. I don't think everyone should automatically be allowed to choose death without giving life a chance.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Dec 26 2006, 10:36 PM Post #6
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oh, I should mention that I know the neice of Michael and Terry Shivo. Remember the Terry Shivo case that was all over the news, what was it last year? The woman who had a heart attack because she was anorexic and was pretty much a vegatable and on a feeding tube for numerous years?

Well their neice is in my class at beauty school. She told me that that whole media sympathy game that her parents played was all bullshit. She said that her husband for many years did everything he could, every type of therapy to try to get her to "come back to life" he home nursed her for many years. During those years her parents didnt even give a shit about her. They gave up on her rather quickly and they never came to visit her or anything. Michael Shivo cared for his wife all on his own for several years. He refused to start dating and move on. He didnt even start dating his second wife until he finally resigned himself to the fact that Terry was not ever coming back. He had decided to let her go. Right when he was going to cut the feeding tube, the parents barged in when they found out that if they gain control her affairs and sue him that they can make a lot of money off of their daughter. So that is when they stepped in and tried to say that their daughter could understand what was going on around her and communicate via her eyes, etc and they played this whole sympathy thing with the media and made it into a big circus. It is horrible what her parents did to her, shame on them!
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Jane Dec 26 2006, 10:41 PM Post #7
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What was the outcome of that Michele? I forget what happened because it wasn't reported as much over here.
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Denovissimus Dec 26 2006, 10:43 PM Post #8
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You make a great point Jane, I like how you've expressed that. But I pair this with the overpopluation problem and say if you want to go you have every right to, again, only because extreme disability or impairment or terminal illness.

Anyone who does not fall into that catergory and wants to commit suicide is a coward.

Thanks for sharing that Michele, how very interesting. I was always for her plug being pulled anyway.
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I was for her passing away as well. Did you see what she turned into? She was a pretty lady before and then she became so unrecognizable. How very sad. :(

i must admit I was a bit miffed that he remarried. life goes on I reckon. :shrug
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I suppose Michele, because humans are the "dominant species" on earth. yeah, right. so many things cam kill us. in fact we are very fragile compared to some of the other animals out there.


Now to get to Jesse's topic. I was acutally thinking about thsi, believe or not, and I still came up with my tie. I mean, yes, people should be able to end their lives if they are end a lot of pain, but what Jules said God sends people to Hell if they commit suicide. I know most of you are atheist but I need something to believe in. Science in itself is not good enough for me. I need to think that there is a paradise out there waiting for me. But I am getting off topic. I have thought of suicide, I think I suffer from a small amount of depression, that's why I have to be so well liked by everybody and popular. But suicide is not the right answer. It wasn't for me then and isn't for me now. Life has been given to you, it is your possesion, you can do whatever you want to do with it. I may not agree, but it's your choice.
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but it was many years after she became a vegatable that he refused to let her go, refused to date or meet other women. I think his second wife started out as a friend and she was by his side as a friend through this ordeal and he wouldnt even start dating her until he had finally come to peace that he tried everything that could be tried and there was nothing else to do.

Jane, they let her die. The parents took it all the way up to I believe the supreme court, or maybe it was the florida supreme court and they lost. She died in March of 05.

she was anorexic. My classmate said that they wanted to have a baby, he especially wanted to have kids really bad but she was unable to have children because of her anorexia.
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Noname Dec 26 2006, 11:00 PM Post #12
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That's so sad.
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Julesy Dec 26 2006, 11:07 PM Post #13
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I think his second wife started out as a friend and she was by his side as a friend through this ordeal


theres no such thing as women and men being just friends! at all!
unless one is gay, that is.
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la anaconda de chocolatee Dec 26 2006, 11:16 PM Post #14
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nah, you can just be friends. It is just highly unlikely that you will ALWAYS just be friend s and nothing more. Usually sooner or later ya end up becoming romantically involved, somtimes it does take several years. Me and Darwin were strictly friends for 4 years before we ever even kissed the first time.
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Noname Dec 26 2006, 11:21 PM Post #15
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Oh, please. Guys and girls can be friends without being sex partners.
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Julesy Dec 26 2006, 11:34 PM Post #16
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It is just highly unlikely that you will ALWAYS just be friend s and nothing more. Usually sooner or later ya end up becoming romantically involved,


So true! I was good friends with my lovah all throughout highschool,now look at us. Even if we werent still together now, we still probably would have hooked up at some point or another.

And Darrelle its easier to "just be friends" in highschool then when you are an adult. Unless like I said, one person is gay or really really unattractive.

Its inevitable.

*dude, so off topic, sorry*
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Noname Dec 28 2006, 04:37 PM Post #17
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We always get off topic. But the question still remains: is assisted suicide okay?


What if your child was in pain and he asked you to kill him, but you loved him more than life itself, would you do it? I don't think I could.
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Julesy Dec 28 2006, 04:45 PM Post #18
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I would, and I would be closer to him than anyone since I gave birth to him and raised him.

Put them out of thier misery.Why keep them alive only for YOUR sake? Thats just cruel
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To hold someone's life in your hands is true power, power that one should use with extreme caution. Taking a life is not easy. Pulling a plug and knowing that after this there soul will fly away somewhere and they will cease to exist in this world.
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Julesy Dec 28 2006, 04:59 PM Post #20
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I think at that point of enduring so much pain, you dont really care "where your soul flies off to"

I would never let my child suffer so much pain if they are terminally ill. Death is the only answer.

Other than to ignore thier cries of agony just so YOU can enjoy a few moments/days/hours with them. Thats so selfish!
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